mark in jacksonville, florida. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi mark. >> caller: hi, stephanie. how are you? >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: i was wanting to ask a question, why isn't more people talking about the patriot act? >> stephanie: well, why right now? >> caller: well because you know, the fiscal cliff is coming and this is one of the big bush era expenditures which has really become a monstrosity. >> stephanie: yeah. i get your point. i just was wondering did it come up in some context. everything should be on the table during these negotiations. let's go to jeff in chicago. hi jeff. >> caller: hi, stephanie. >> stephanie: hi. >> caller: great show. >> stephanie: thank you. >> caller: i do believe that mccain sounds like a grumpy old man. i also do believe that as far as the fiscal negotiations go, we have the upper hand. we should not relent. not only should all of the loopholes be closed. >> stephanie: jeff. by the way, i was just going to say, i think one of the reasons why there's starting to be cracks in the grover norquist pl